RE: [flasah] DAVID IS New to Leatherworking

 

Allen, Dianne, Dayna and others, I have been learning this craft for about a year or so now and still have a long way to go.  I have wet/cased all the ways that have been mentioned.  Shucks, I did a bunch (50) of bookmarks for our church to present for Morther's day and again for Father's day.  So, I had some leather bookmarks cased for up to a week or more.  Yes, it takes a while to dry out to a workable consistency, but I can always find something to do while waiting. LOL  SO as has been said so many times "to each his own" or whatever ever works best for you and the circumstances.


IN GOD WE TRUST
Bill



 


Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:22:50 -0400
From: daypin@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [flasah] DAVID IS New to Leatherworking
To: flasah@yahoogroups.com

 
The page listed several ways to do "casing".  F said that there are no set rules.  Find what works best for you.  Good luck to all.  Dayna
 

To: flasah@yahoogroups.com
From: leathermang@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:23:46 -0700
Subject: RE: [flasah] DAVID IS New to Leatherworking [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from GB included below]

LOL,

Allen, you are my new BEST FRIEND.... someone advocating LONGER casing than I do !!!!    I have been fighting the notion that just slapping water on leather and going to work on it is acceptable procedure for 49 years.

 What you do not understand is that Tandy was the only game in town with regards to hobby leathercraft in those days....Al Stohlman was in a  commercial relationship with TANDY ( they printed his books and sold them both )....and therefore not entirely free to say what he wanted to in his books..

Tandy's main feeder group in terms of being exposed to leathercraft was in schools and summer camps... they did not typically have the ability to wet the leather the day before...so CORPORATE minds insisted on the part about about less than ideal procedure... very few of the bigwigs at Tandy actually carved leather... shocking but true...

   They were interested in selling the idea of something fast and easy which did not require planning ahead a day... or even 8 hours...

Attached is a picture of page 3 of the Belts Galore book...

If everyone got the concept of letting the cells in the leather become evenly moist before working on it most of my job would be over.  Until one has experienced properly cased ( and then properly drying ) carving and stamping they can not appreciate the difference in ease, ability to make graceful cuts, or the ability to impart sharp lasting stamping impressions...

( Note that this whole concept of wetting the leather also means that if you wet the surface AGAIN after you start stamping you will LOSE crispness of impression )

I have enough personal experience that I am confidant in saying that there is only a certain amount of cell water leveling that can happen..... and overnight is perfectly fine...

This is a good time to mention refrigerators with regards to casing...

The MAIN purpose of using the refrigerator to place your fully wetted , paper covered project  ,  leather for the casing time is TO ALLOW SOME DISCRETION or FUDGE FACTOR in when you address your leather..

if you have something happen in your life which does not allow starting your project at the time you planned...then you risk having MOLD form on your leather UNLESS you have it in a really cool place ( read refrigerator ).... so two days later you can still take it out and start the process with little or no fear of mold..

   But if you leave it wet and WARM then you better take it out the next day... if you can not begin work then just let it dry...

It is best to not let the leather touch your 'container' because that is the spot most likely to develop mold ...so I wrap my leather in brown bag paper ....just cut up brown paper bags... we saved and used them for patterns anyway... You can custom make a purse pattern by taping together the size and shape and then cutting it apart to lay on the leather for cutting the pieces...

Gregory B. Moody
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DRules at Youtube soon




  



--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Allen Meadows <scissormedic@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Allen Meadows <scissormedic@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [flasah] DAVID IS New to Leatherworking
To: flasah@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:18 AM

 


Well GB your mistaken…

 

Al Stolhman's "Leatherwork Manual" called the wetting of leather with a sponge "casing".

In chapter 2 page 17 (I won't quote the entire paragraph)  he states:

 

"How do you wet the leather? By CASING it… which means simply rubbing a damp (not wet) sponge to the flesh side as evenly as possible."

 

I also have read a Stohlman book that he refers to the wetting of leather with a sponge as "quick casing". I will gladly look up that quote as well.

 

I too am a relatively new guy to the leather scene. Not quite a year into it. I can tell you just as most leatherworkers who have experienced a few projects that there are distinct differences in the casing of different thicknesses of leather. I have cased with a sponge, cased the leather overnight  and the 24 hr method (heck I had one piece sit for 3 days before I got to it). So for Al to recommend a belt to be allowed to sit 24 hr is reasonable.

 

Allen





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