Re: [flasah] Mauls a BAD DESIGN for stamping/ unified theory of stamping tools
Diann
You do not need all the high speed tools you may hear people on here
talk about. A swivel knife with a steel blade that you keep well
stropped, and a basic set of tools like the ones that come with one of
the beginners kits will get you through most of the carving you would
like to do. A small smooth believer like the 200 can improve your
beveling depth and speed. Texture beveling can always be added as a
finishing touch if desired. Different sized and textured tools are just
a bonus and can be added when you feel the need but are not in any way
must haves. I only use about 9 or 10 craft tools for just about
anything I do, and have to force myself to use other tool just as
examples for my customers to give them ideas of other things that they
may want to try.
If you can not use the craft tools more expensive tools will not make
your tooling any better.
Diann Amberger wrote:
>
>
> Michael,,,,,
> LOL.........
> we're talking about. I, for one, can't afford all the latest tools and
> gadgets, and I don't think all of them are necessary for good tooling. I
> think a good knife and good leather and patience and practice are the keys
> to a master leather worker. (I'll probably get "mauled" for saying that,
> too, but, oh well, it wouldn't be the first time). I do think one needs
> some stamping tools, but so far, I have crafttools and 2 hidecrafters that
> I got on sale, and they all work fine. Of course, I'll be the first to
> admit that I haven't done any spectacular tooling yet, but this is
> still my
> opinion. And the one thing about Tandy, if you belong to their wholesale
> club, each month, buy one tool, get one free........
> That's what I do, and with the ones that my good friends on here have sent
> me, I've got quite a little collection. Now, I'm working on getting a good
> maul and knives......
> LOL.....
>
> Diann
>
> At 10:30 AM 9/6/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> > [Attachment(
> >Michael Garner included below]
> >
> > Diann, you and I are just beginners but I think we
> >see the light through the smoke. Spending our money on supplies like
> >leather and lace instead of the latest whiz-bang tools?......
> >profound concept!! I have combined all the advice I have gathered from
> >this thread (cord?) and came up with the ultimate leather stamping tool!
> > leather but I think everyone should finally agree that I
> >am using the recommended tool and technique. ( I hope I don't get
> >"mauled" for posting this but I just had to "stick" in my 2 centavos!)
> >
> >--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Diann Amberger <DAmberger@centuryt
> >
> >From: Diann Amberger<DAmberger@
> >Subject: Re: [flasah] Mauls a BAD DESIGN for stamping
> >To: flasah@yahoogroups.
> >Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 7:21 PM
> >
> > Dale, I've never heard of one either.. I expect it would save us all
> a lot
> >of money if we would just get a piece of hardwood, cover it in
> leather and
> >nail it to a stick,,,,,,, ,,,think so? Then we could use the extra
> money on
> >other fun stuff, like leather, tools, lace,,,,,,etc. ...
> >Diann
> >
> >At 07:30 PM 9/5/2009 -0500, you wrote:
> >> GB wrote:
> >>><> from GB included below]
> >>>
> >>> Jerome,
> >>> Why did you only address one aspect of my critique of the maul
> designs
> >>> in question?
> >>>
> >>> Tell me why you would use a striking instrument which is , like Windy
> >>> said, basically trying to hit your stamps with a pipe ?
> >>>
> >>> Now to your description of how a striking instrument is supposed
> to be
> >>> used...hanging off the end of your arm supported in only one
> direction
> >>> by your wrist.... just wrong.
> >>>
> >>> A prescription for tunnel carpal syndrome if ever I saw one. That
> >>> also means that all the VIBRATION of the hits... which I was saving
> >>> for my annotated presentation on striking instruments to cover...
> goes
> >>> right to the wrist .
> >>>
> >>> But for those who want to think about it in the meantime ... you need
> >>> to have something to counter balance the weight doing the work.... a
> >>> place for the vibration to go to be dissipated into the air.... not
> >>> into your elbow or shoulder. This also changes the hold and the
> motion
> >>> associated with the stamping so as to avoid the ' hammer' hold
> using a
> >>> side motion of the wrist.
> >>>
> >>> I am attaching a couple of pictures from the Kelly Tool company
> >>> instruction booklet (about 1978 ) which has a pretty good picture of
> >>> how your wrist action should be to minimize effort and injury over
> >>> the long haul. Several other people have had and shown rectangular
> >>> stamping sticks over the years in places like ' The Leather
> Craftsman'
> >>> magazine .... but Tandy never offered a flat bottomed square handled
> >>> mallet ..... so there was not much way for it to catch on no matter
> >>> how many benefits it has.
> >>>
> >>> I believe the Kelly Tool company became the Midas Tool Company which
> >>> is what The Leather Factory used to compete with Craftool until they
> >>> bought Tandy and Craftool about 2000.
> >>>
> >>> Also , Jerome, you sounded like you were using your maul just as a
> >>> gravity determined impact tool... which would mean you would have to
> >>> change the height from which you dropped it as the only way to vary
> >>> the impact... not only would that be silly.. but VERY SLOW... when
> >>> using a proper striking stick you can work much faster than gravity
> >>> will allow you...
> >>>
> >>> Ok, Windy, here is the type of motion for proper leather stamping.. (
> >>> in the attachments) it allows your entire arm to be held two inches
> >>> lower than with a common hammer type mallet, puts the actual hitting
> >>> surface plane extension on your finger tips , has the ability to have
> >>> weights installed to customize to the crafter's needs, AND has a wide
> >>> and long sweet spot. and has the ability to dampen the constant
> >>> pounding into the air with the other end out in the air... as
> compared
> >>> to the vibration traveling right through your wrist and up your arm.
> >>>
> >>> It is all physics and ergonomics.. .
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is the way I hold my mallet. That's the way I was taught to hold
> >> it over 50 years ago. I have never used a striking stick... shucks,
> I'd
> >> never even heard of a striking stick until this thread started.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dale Erwin
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